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Mallyard
02-24-2004, 04:58 PM
Yes, on the motion stakes for the shells. Does the stakes come with in structions for the GHG shells? I was wondering because i'm goin to purchase some and was wonder ing where to drill the hole, so the decoy won't be off ballance... Thanks,

Mallyard

Rob Jepson
02-24-2004, 06:34 PM
Mallyard,

Well I can tell you that you just made the guy who wrote the installation instructions for the Motion Stakes packaging one of the happiest guys I know! The anwsers you seek are available on the back of the UMS package. I would attempt to write them here, but my laptop doesn't have that much memory! ;) I have a hunch that the real reason the UMS will be 6" longer this year is because our guy wanted to add a bibliograpghy, source notes, and a reference section to the package! :D

Seriously, you just need to try to find the balance point with your finger and drill your hole in that same approx. position. Different style heads ( feeders, resters, etc.) will have different balance points...so find the balance point with the decoy's head attached...then mark the decoy ( feeder, resters, etc.)so you can attach the correct head in the field. It is not critical if you get some paired up wrong. As long as they are not falling over and move freely on gthe stake you will be OK!

Hope this helps.

Rob Jepson
Avery Territory Manager

Mallyard
02-24-2004, 06:57 PM
Thanks, Rob. It just looked hard I guess ;) ...


Mallyard
PS: You made me feel as tall as a cricket...lol smile.gif

Rob Jepson
02-24-2004, 08:16 PM
Mallyard,

Wasn't trying to razz you. That first bit was really for the benefit of our packaging guys!

Hey, I'll give you the chance to make me feel as tall as a cricket...What does "lol" stand for? I see it all the time and I stare at it like I'm trying to read a vanity license plate? Seriously...

Rob

pahunter
02-24-2004, 09:34 PM
here is your cricket sized answer lol,

lol = laugh out loud.

Mallyard
02-24-2004, 10:05 PM
Thanks Rob, Now I feel taller (lol)... hehehe...Your Haleriouse , or howerver you spell it.

Mallyard

Rob Jepson
02-24-2004, 11:33 PM
Thanks Mallyard...I would have never figured it out in a million years!

Rob

Tom Matthews
02-24-2004, 11:36 PM
Hey you guys are making fun of Shawn Stahl and me, and our feelings are hurt! He spent hours writing those instructions, ad I spent another hour just trimming them down to where they would fit on the back of the package.

Read the UMS instruction below, and you will see what we go through for such a simple little deal to be successful. We wrote these detailed instructions because we are hunters too, and we know that most guys just want to drill the holes and go hunting. This could result in your decoys not being balanced which would then cause you to drill more holes AFTER a hunt where you sat there and cussed Avery the entire time because your decoys were all tilted to the front or the back. Nobody wants a bunch of holes in their decoys so we want to help you get it right the first time. THESE ARE AWESOME, THEY ARE EXTREMELY INEXPENSIVE AND THEY WORK! There is no reason not to do it right the first time by reading and following the instructions. Enjoy a little light reading...

Universal Motion Stake™ Instructions

Tools Required
Power Drill
5/16th Drill Bit

Step 1
Obtain desired number of decoys and all decoy head styles to be used with the motion stake system.

Step 2: Hole Location
To select the correct hole location for attachment of the UMS to desired decoy it is critical to locate the average balance point for all decoy head styles. To do this, place head style 1 in decoy and locate the balance point of the decoy. A simple method is to balance the decoy with head attached on your index finger. Mark the hole location on the underside of decoy and repeat step for each remaining head style. Determine the average balance point by finding the middle mark. This will allow any style head to be used with any decoy. (HINT) Once a particular head style is determined to provide the average balance point it can be used for each subsequent decoy to locate the hole location. No other heads need to be used to locate.

(Alternate Method) Place desired head onto decoy, locate exact balance point and mark hole for next step. (HINT) It is a good idea to place an identifiable mark next to the hole that will allow you to place the correct head style on the decoy for when setting up for a hunt.

Step 3: Drill Hole
Using a power drill with a 5/16th bit, drill out the hole as determined in Step 2. (Hint) When drilling hole, decoy will be upside down. Be careful to maintain decoy bottom parallel to ground and drill straight down. (IMPORTANT) Be sure to use the drill bit size as specified above. Failure will result in improper function of the Universal Motion Stake.

Step 4: Field Set-Up
You are now ready to use the Universal Motion Stake with your decoys. To set up simply push Universal Motion Stake into ground. Locate decoy with desired head onto top of Universal Motion Stake.


Hunting Tips:
1. We recommend using one motion decoy in every three used in your spread.
2. Place motion decoys near landing zones and away from blind. This method will help decrease the chance of geese locating the blinds.
3. During extremely windy conditions you can limit decoy movement by pushing the Universal Motion Stake farther into the ground.
4. When hunting in grain fields with high stubble, we recommend using as many Universal Motion Stakes as possible. This will increase decoy visibility and effectiveness.
5. Storing stakes in a 5 gallon bucket makes a nice carrying tote for the Universal Motion Stakes. A white bucket works the best; as it is very easy to find in the dark while setting decoys.
6. When setting up large quantities of motion decoys, it is easier if one hunter sets stake and another hunter positions decoy on top of stake.
7. (Caution): DO NOT PLACE DECOY ON STAKE AND THEN INSERT INTO GROUND. THIS COULD CAUSE DAMAGE TO STAKE AND POSSIBLE INJURY TO HUNTER. Refer to STEP 4 in instructions.

Michael-S
02-25-2004, 03:15 PM
Tom,

I don’t know if this is going to work or not, but it just an idea. May be someone might already thought of this. Or this might be even too much cost effective, but here it goes.

Why not put the pre-marked hole(s) on each type of decoy style. For example:

- On the shell decoys, just put couple pre-mark holes on the back of each decoy. Let’s say the 1st hole is for the feeders, 2nd hole is for the actives or resters, etc.

- As for the full body decoys, it will be similar, but I think only one hole will be needed because each body type will only fit certain type of head. But I think you get the idea.

So if us hunters don’t want to use the stakes, then at least we won’t have any hole on our decoys. However, if we want to use the stakes, then we can drill a perfect balanced hole every time.

The pre-marked hole(s) just going to be a very small, plus its will be kind of blend in with the detail of the feathers. We probably won’t be able to tell from a few yards away, especially not geese.

Michael

Mallyard
02-25-2004, 10:21 PM
I like the Idea..... ALOT... hehehe...

Mallyard

Tom Matthews
02-26-2004, 12:58 AM
...or you could read and follow the very-simple-to-understand instructions that are on the back of the package...