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Matt Minton
11-10-2004, 02:47 PM
i put killer weed on my x- lander blind. I cut it into about 10" lengths. And zip tied it with clear ties to the blind. Do I need to fill every camo stap? By the way I am hunting in a wheat field. Is it okay that there is a little of the blind still showing? If anyone can give me some words of wisdom I would appreciate them.
Matt
JEDJR
11-10-2004, 03:50 PM
Matt,Welcome to the Avery message board. I dont think you need to cover the whole blind/use all the stubble straps. if you are blending well, you have achieved what is needed to stay concealed.Step back 20-30 yards and look at your blind. If it matches your surroundings, you have enough killerweed on the blind.
Good luck Matt and thanks for choosing Avery/GHG!
Matt Minton
11-10-2004, 08:34 PM
Thanks JEDJR for your input. I was told that hunting in a winter wheat feild it is really hard to conceal a blind. I layed the blind out in my yard and stood back. It did not seem to blend that well. Does anyone have any pictures of how the killer weed should look on the blind? I hope someone can help.
Thanks
Matt :confused:
Mark Brendemuehl
11-10-2004, 09:39 PM
Matt- welcome to the board. Here is a few things to try. First thing, "mud" your blind. Smear mud from one end to the other. This will make the finish "dull" and help it blend in better. The best camo in the world can still have a sheen to it when its on a flat surface.
The killer weed does not have to be in every strap. Do what you think you need to, and then back off like Jed said and check it out. If you think you need more or less, then do it. Wheat fields are a pain to hide in, thats why I like my powerhunter for them- the lower profile helps sell the deal to the birds. Even mudded up and well hidden, I still think birds see the blinds, but they buy the overall scheme of the decoys, and the lumps on the ground are ok.
Mark
tealtom
11-11-2004, 12:13 AM
How many kits did it take to conceal the boat you have pictured featuring the boat blind kit? And how long did it take to cover the entire thing?
Rusty Hallock
11-11-2004, 09:56 AM
Matt,
I hunt winter wheat fields most of the season in Maryland. JED and Mark gave you great advice. When I hunt a winter wheat field, I mud my blind and I do not sweep off the excess mud. You can barely see the camo pattern. I will lightly add WinterWheat Killerweed to my Power Hunter's CamoStraps. To complete the stubbling of the blind, I add the left over corn stalks or soy bean fodder left in the field. I also lightly add the corn stalks or bean fodder. Just match the field.
I use Power Hunter blinds when I hunt winter wheat fields. The Power Hunter has one of the lowest profiles of any layout blind. I also use the lay of the land if possible. If you have rolling hills, use the hills to hide your profile. No matter how small the hill may appear, use it to your advantage. Also, use your decoys to break up your blinds profile. I like to put feeder and active full bodies around my blinds. If you are using silouettes, place them around your blind to break up your blind's profile. I hope this helps. Have a great season.
If you are at the Waterfowl Festival this weekend in Easton, stop by the Angler's booth in the Eason High School. Several Avery Pro-Staffers will be there to answer any of your questions.
Rusty Hallock
11-11-2004, 10:03 AM
tealtom,
Here is a copy of a previous post from Bill Cooksey regarding the boat in our Killerweed ad on Avery's website:
This photo shows a 15' blind with KillerWeed. The guy who owns this boat chose to put 100% of his KillerWeed on the top and front of his blind. Frankly, this looks cool but is not the best way to use the product.
In testing KillerWeed, we applied it to the entire boat. Our goal was to get the optimal 3-D look from every angle. In reality the boat in this photo, while looking cool, is not the ultimate in camo. You get much better camo by leaving openings between hanks of KillerWeed. This provides both depth and real shadows.
If your goal is to provide deep cover the entire blind, no, one bundle won't do it. If your goal is to provide a great camo for your boat and kill more ducks, one kit will definitely do it.
To the best of my knowledge, we provide more grass (by weight) for the dollar than any of our competitors. We have been working on this product for two years, and these are the quantities we recommend to get the best appearance. Everyone who hunts waterfowl has their own opinion on how to hide. In my opinion, and that of several others whose opinions I respect, the best way to hide a boat is using spaced hanks of KillerWeed to provide camo, shadows and a true 3-D appearance.
This kit will achieve that on the boat sizes advertised. For those of you who want more, I will suggest the following.
1) Use KillerWeed in the manner I described that was used for the photo. Hell, we all know that you should have the back of your blind against natural cover anyway.
2) Purchase an additional kit. You'll get the look you are after, and spend less than with any of our competitors. Just understand that this is not the way we recommend you camo your boat.
3) Buy a similar product from another company. You'll spend more money, and probably have to spend a lot of time using dye to get the colors we provide.
We have provided the product in the amount that we would use in the field. I know how many years the dozen or so guys who worked on this project have spent hunting from boat blinds, and they all agreed on the optimum amount of KillerWeed to use in the kit. Most of these guys have hunted from boat blinds for twenty-plus years, and I feel pretty good about the consensus.
How big is your boat? What kind of blind are you using?
Matt Minton
11-11-2004, 08:15 PM
hey Rusty thanks for the knowledge. Is it okay to mud my blind now even though the season does not start until the 18th? Do you leave your killer weed in full lengths? I cut mine about 10" long. Rusty do you remember me from the federalsburg contest and the md states. I blow one of John Taylors calls? Are blowing in the contest at Easton?
Thanks
Matt
tealtom
11-11-2004, 10:34 PM
I have a 14foot flat bottom boat and we have the Cabela's Northern Flight Blind on it.
tealtom
11-12-2004, 02:06 AM
And also the picture i was referring to was the one ya'll have advertising the killer weed boat blind kit on the averyoutdoors.com website under blinds and accessories.
Rusty Hallock
11-13-2004, 08:46 AM
tealtom,
Bill's post I copied is in reference to the boat in the picture on Averyoutdoors.com that you are refering to. If you want your boat to look like that boat on all 4 sides, you will need more than 1 Killerweed Boat Blind Kit.
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