Which Choke

[Chris Downs]

Guys,
I've been considering trying a new choke in my old 870, to bring it out of retirement. It is a special purpose camo 3" gun with 26" barrel. I've been using a kicks high flyer, with great success(thanks JedJr) for a few years now with my SBE, but I miss my old pump gun sometimes and need a choke that will help me get the job done on ducks and geese. I don't really like the patterns I get with the factory chokes and could go with another kicks, but thought I'd get some ideas from the pros first.

[Jeff Riverin]

Wad Wizard : SWAT and Supreme

[StraitMeatKilla]

JEFF SAID IT RIGHT.......WAD WIZARD!!!

Give Lorie a call and let her exactly what you are looking for in a tube (decoying, pass shooting, pattern desnity, etc.). She will hook you up. And the best part is....30-day money back guarantee!!!

Strait

[Tony Vandemore]

Try a Terror...

[Brett Beinke]

When it comes to patterns it is very easy to see a pattern on a pice of paper but that is not the whole storey. What many of us are trying to achieve is more pellets on the target and we think that if we have a tighter pattern on paper that we achieved that goal but we would be wrong. Many chokes although posting very tight paper patterns lengthen your shot string to achieve this pattern which would mean if you are shooting a moving target (duck or a goose) you would actually put less pellets on target than if you had a bigger pattern with a shorter shot string. Both Pattern Master and Wad Wizzards are designed to not only improve your pattern on paper but also to shorten your shot string. I have used the Wad Wizzard SWAT (great for gunning over decoys) and Supreme and I would highly recomend that you look into these chokes as an option for you.

[Tony Vandemore]

Brett, let me play devils advocate for a minute...is there any hard evidence to support the shorter shot string theory with the Pmaster and Wad Wizard? How much difference can there actually be from a pellet at the back of the shot string to a pellet at the front of the shot string, as far as the time it impacts the target when you are shooting a load that is traveling 1500+ feet per second at the muzzle? It just seems to me like it is a very small difference. For example (these numbers are hypothetical), say a shot string is 10' long and is traveling 800 feet per second at 40 yards, the time it takes that pellet in the back to travel 10' at 800 fps that duck will not have made it very far. Bob Brister wrote a book about it, Shotgunning, the Art and the Science.
Either way, I have shot Pmasters, Wad Wizards, Terrors, etc, these chokes are down right lethal!

[Jeff Riverin]

Nice post Tony,

thanks for sharing with us your expertise!

[MAC ISLAND]

Originally posted by Jeff Riverin:
Wad Wizard : SWAT and SupremeYep!

[Tony Vandemore]

No expertise Jeff, it was a legitimate question, if I knew the answer I wouldn't have asked! ;) The only theory I was smart enough to figure out was that when I'm not on them I miss...lol :D tongue.gif

[Dwayne Padgett]

I shoot a Patternmaster and a Terror and love them both. The Terror is a .655 that I use on snowgeese.

[Jeff Riverin]

Good point Tony!
:D

[ksgoosekilr]

Patternmaster! :D

[Brad Hanson]

hate to play Forest Gump here(I aint a smarrrrrrrrrrt man) but I truly believe every gun is a bit different. I have purchased several after market chokes including Pattern master. I ran several types on my Xtrema and finally went back to the factory model and found that the IM hit the best. the complete opposite with the Benelli Nova as all the factory chokes patterned like crap but a Pattern master was the ticket. I admit I have not tried the Wad Wizard yet but looking forward to the opportunity.