View Full Version : Ark to consider ban on motion FBs.
The Big Gumbo
08-22-2006, 10:54 PM
The game and fish commission in Ark are considering banning full body motion decoys in their ongoing attemp to save the mallards for the world. They have already outlawed SWDs and reduced bags to one hen and even considered, seriously, to ban all hen mallards in the limit.
This was a joke, but don't be surprized with these are next and look for it in Ark. I would look for a static and stationary rule to pop up somewhere soon.
Wingman
08-22-2006, 11:23 PM
It's only funny if it doesn't come ture;) ... in 2000 who would have guessed that so many states would ban the battery operated flipping wing decoys by the 2005-2006 season?
Cheers,
Adam
Rich Good
08-23-2006, 06:47 AM
I'm shure your right someone will try to push some rule in there about static and stationary like you say.
Ryan Kleinschmidt
08-23-2006, 07:44 AM
Not much different than MN electing to only allow 4 birds per day instead of 6 like the rest of the states in the mississippi flyway.
Culley Wilson
08-23-2006, 08:01 AM
The Big Gumbo,
You should feel privledged that your home state is so concerned about their mallard population and harvest. The tourism dollars created by out of state hunters is possibly a very large factor in this equation. But, if Arkansas didn't have such a large number of mallards migrating through it each year you would have a hard time shooting limits to begin with.
I hunted with Jim Ronquest of RNT in Stuttgart in 2003 and 2004 for a total of six days and we had a hard time getting birds to decoy due to all the spinning wing decoys in the spread, I thought. I think you will ultimately see this as a plus for your hunting. Likewise, it will make everyone a better hunter and the harvest of a limit more rewarding.
Being raised in East Texas hunting between the missippi and central flyways I grew up shooting a limit of mallards before going to school. My job has moved me to NC and I can promise you one thing, the majority, if not all, of resident waterfowl hunters in NC would gladly accept a reduced bag limit to have the numbers of migratory puddle ducks that Arkansas sees.
Remember, the harvesting of birds should be the bonus of the hunt being we are not trying to feed our families. The experience of the hunt and comraderie in the field is what, in my opinion, more hunters should put a little more emphasis on in the future.
Wingman
08-23-2006, 08:51 AM
Remember, the harvesting of birds should be the bonus of the hunt being we are not trying to feed our families. The experience of the hunt and comraderie in the field is what, in my opinion, more hunters should put a little more emphasis on in the future.
WELL SAID!!!!
Cheers!
Rob Heflin
08-23-2006, 01:51 PM
I think going to one hen was a good move and I hope MS does the same in the future.
I don't look for AR or anybody else to ban all other types of motion decoys. If you start getting that nit-picky, you're looking at banning t-flags and jerk strings and that ain't gonna happen.
austinjbrown
08-23-2006, 04:41 PM
I agree with the game and fish restricting the bag limit of hens to 1 and i also agree with them banning spinning wing decoys, used to anyone could go out and throw out 4 mojo ducks and shoot their limit of ducks without having any clue about hunting; now you actually have to work a little bit to shoot ducks, the way it should be. I dont think they'll ban motion decoys, i dont think they make that much a difference like the spinning wing did.
James Staten
08-23-2006, 04:42 PM
I live in Ar and personally I was glad to see our Game and Fish ban all spinning wing decoys last year. We kill more birds without them than with them!!! They eventually became a eye sore and a huge pain when they flared more birds than decoyed.
The one hen restriction is just fine and dandy with me also. Why would you want more than one hen anyway? Sure I know everyone says why just mallard hens and not gadwall, teal, or widgeon well like a east Ar guide told me once "son that suker is green on the head because of the money he brings!" And after all other duck species continue to flurish on the breeding grounds when mallards seem to have some problems as of late. So let the brown gals pass.
Motion stakes while very affective and awsome I doubt seriously will put quite the hurt on the young of the year ducks like the spinners did. Look on the bright side while the beloved Game and Fish didnt change how they set up our youth season they did at least take the zones away for now and open and close the entire state at the same time. Plus we do get 6 ducks that is more than enough for me to eat on each day. As for me the hunting with my dog, good friends, kids, great fun and just my addiction to the waterfowl hunting sport is what keeps me going. BUT.....dont get me wrong limits can make all this alott better! Aint much finer than 4 greenies, and a couple gaddys or teal hurry Nov!!
River Reaper
kontekontos
08-23-2006, 05:27 PM
I think it would be absolutely ridiculous if someone tried to ban motion stakes. I can understand the spinning wings,and even all battery operated stuff,but motion stakes would be to far in my opinion. What would be next. No jerk strings.
konte
Curt Wilson
08-23-2006, 10:21 PM
I wish they would ban the use of spinning wing decoys here in California. The only restriction now is no battery powered ones until December sometime. The wind powered spinning wings can be used all year. There is some good news in the works for the state this year. The fish and game department is fighting between a 5 and 7 mallard limit as well as a 4 speck limit. This could be a good year. I can't wait for the opener.
David Wood
08-23-2006, 11:01 PM
I think it would be absolutely ridiculous if someone tried to ban motion stakes. I can understand the spinning wings,and even all battery operated stuff,but motion stakes would be to far in my opinion. What would be next. No jerk strings.
konte
Understood..... Banning motion decoys would be a bit overboard. But.........
Remember how many ducks we shot without the aid of such things as spinning wings ? Do you remember how that felt ?
Were we all covered up in camo ? Waxed canvas and hip boots as I recall.
Did the quality of the carver have more bearing than the size of a spread ?
You bet !
Calling and being quiet were the order of the day. Faces up meant, deep ka ka with your old man. Sometimes it meant picking up the dekes for all of his buddies just so you could have a shot.
Full body motions allowed us to do less work. Not unfair, but much less work , none the less. Thats what we sell. Convienience for the hunter.
If you can't finish birds with Avery equip, someone is flashing face or your just unlucky. That's all......Nothing else
JJ McGuire
08-24-2006, 07:08 AM
I think it would be absolutely ridiculous if someone tried to ban motion stakes. I can understand the spinning wings,and even all battery operated stuff,but motion stakes would be to far in my opinion. What would be next. No jerk strings.
konte
I agree.
I guess that would also include silos, I know mine "wobble" on windy days. And when the chop is up boy my dekes really move.
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