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berk74
08-14-2007, 09:29 PM
A friend of mine without a computer asked me to post this - he claims he saw (on an Avery website) some homemade PVC stakes/stands that were used with fullbodies - the idea was you could stick the stand in the muck in anywhere from 1-3 feet of water, and make it look like the decoys were only standing in a few inches of water.

Obviously with the new motion cones, this could easily be accomplished with just a straight length of some conduit, or fairly narrow PVC, but I wanted to see if this would jar anyone's memory.

Thanks for your help!

TMVA
08-14-2007, 09:43 PM
they showed that on this weekend's DU TV. They stuck a piece of PVC in the water and the stake in that... decoy on top and done.

steelheadslayer
08-14-2007, 09:43 PM
First off, how'd he see it without a computer?:D

I saw the same thing on Avery website I think under the tech tips section????

Also, last weekend on DU TV, Wade Bourne showed a similar set up, it looks pretty trick, I'll have to try it this year.

berk74
08-14-2007, 09:47 PM
First off, how'd he see it without a computer?:D

I saw the same thing on Avery website I think under the tech tips section????

Also, last weekend on DU TV, Wade Bourne showed a similar set up, it looks pretty trick, I'll have to try it this year.

ha ha ha - good question, he probably saw it on his son's computer. He's in his mid-60's so maybe he did see it on DU TV this weekend, and thought it was two years ago :D

Rick Frisch
08-14-2007, 09:59 PM
It is called, "Raising the Stakes."

Thanks,

Drake
08-14-2007, 10:53 PM
I have used this method with excellent results. http://forums.callingducks.com/showthread.php?t=3618.

Christian Curtis
08-14-2007, 11:18 PM
It's a great method allowing you to use FB Decoys in deeper water.

Walt McCord
08-15-2007, 12:21 AM
What I do is use some old alum. arrows. If you go by your local outdoors shop and see if they have some old alum arrows that is mabey bent or something, they may sell them at a cheap price.

quivira kid
08-15-2007, 12:55 AM
It is called, "Raising the Stakes."

Thanks,


Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! :p :p

Can't remember which of the Avery rep's told us last year at Cabela's KC, but we use dowel rods. Sharpened one end, and drilled a hole so the stake fit snugly in the other... painted them black just in case..... worked like a CHAMP all duck season!

duckboy1
08-15-2007, 10:46 AM
go to home depot and get some green garden stakes for about $1 each and cut the top of and the motion stakes fit right down into the stakes!

733SubDucker
08-17-2007, 07:57 AM
go to home depot and get some green garden stakes for about $1 each and cut the top of and the motion stakes fit right down into the stakes!

I just got a couple dozen garden stakes to try! Can't wait to see the look on the bass fishermans faces when they cruise by the shore in front of my camp and see the FFD's 'walking on water'!

FlockedUp
08-17-2007, 08:50 AM
Last summer I decided that we needed stakes for the duck lease. The water in our lease is at a range of 1' to 4' in constantly changing or sloping amounts. We needed an adjustable system that could handle being hammered in to the hard bottom of the pond. Its amazing how central and western kansas can have water on the ground for 6 months and you still need a sledge hammer and a coal miners swing to get anything in the ground. I went to rebar for my stake last year. I welded a washer to the top of the rebar and then welded a 1" tube with a 1/4" diameter, 1" below the washer on the side of the stake. I drilled a hole in the washer slightly larger than the motion stake directly above the tube. I also drilled and tapped a hole in the tube. What this left me with was a way to slide the stake in to the hole in the washer and then down into the tube where a stove bolt could be screwed in and hold the stake in place. This allows the stake to be adjustable so that the legs of the decoy are just slightly above the water. This also means i dont have to sink the main rebar into the ground to an exact level. I just get close and then adjust the decoy stake from there. They worked great. I can hammer them into the ground hard and still control the placement of the decoy. On still days i let the decoy touch the water so that it causes ripples where the legs touch. It also means you can put geese out on the water with the same stakes. I will have my partner in crime post pictures of the results of these stakes. I loved how they worked but honestly doubt we use them that much this year. You have to be very careful how you set these things because ducks dont always like to land in the shallow end of the pond and thats what you are showing. They are amazing on the river spread though, you can make a submerged sandbar or mud flat anywhere. THis year i am going to weld up caps that can be slid onto pvc or dowels so that they can be used the same way.

BoonMan
08-17-2007, 09:37 AM
I saved these pictures from a post by Jim Thompson (think that is his name might be wrong).
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/brobones/resize593wf.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/brobones/resize539sw.jpg

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d49/brobones/resize622ip.jpg

Jim Thompson, Jr.
08-17-2007, 10:37 AM
I used the dowel rod method but I think the angled PVC would be the ticket.Cheaper and faster to do plus you dont need to cut the motion stakes.Any comments on flexing of PVC especially in longer lenghts.See September issue of DU { coming soon } on layouts.

chad belding
08-17-2007, 11:49 AM
This is truly a great method to fool late season ducks. We hunt a lot of thin ice over deeper waters here in Nevada and the longer stakes give us the ability to imitate mallards walking on the ice. You can not go wrong with this technique.

Good Hunting!

FlockedUp
08-17-2007, 01:08 PM
another cool thing to do with this type of set up is to run your jerk string through eye loops on the stakes. it keeps your string anchored below the water line and it allows you to pull multiple ducks with one anchor. The other cool thing is it rattles the stakes and moves the fb's on still days. It can and will put alot of realism and alot motion out on the glass. It can eliminate competion with other spreads that lack the movement of live ducks on a still day.

h20fow1er
08-17-2007, 01:17 PM
Don't know where the good pictures are. These will have to do for now.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l125/j_anschutz/2006hunt/DSC00437_sm.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l125/j_anschutz/2006hunt/DSC00532.jpg

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l125/j_anschutz/2006hunt/DSC00533.jpg