Motion cones in fullbody lookers

[ducknut@sbcglobal.net]

Anyone have experience putting motion cones in full body lookers? Do they balance right, and does it work ok? Thanks for any help or advise, Barry

[mike.]

from what i know, you need to add weight to the back as they tip forward. but people have done it, just put some weights in the tail

[GooseFlocker]

I wouldn't bother putting Lookers on motion cones. It's not a natural appearance; a Looker is a sentry, a stationary bird, a bird that is on patrol, (they do not move). Put the motion in your feeders and actives, you'll be more than happy with the movement these decoys reveal; in as little as a 5 mph wind...;)

[Drake]

I had an extra motion cone laying around just begging to be used ,so I threw it in one of my looker's and was pleasantly with the results , it was very easy to find the perfect balance point and it doesnt seem to be tippy in either direction front to back.

[Spank'em]

I converted a bunch this summer, only one looker though, and no extra weight was needed. I know one thing, each decoy has a differnt center of balance, just because they are all the same make and style you will probally need to find the center on each one seperatly. Arrow with a sharp field tip worked well.

[Brad Hanson]

I will agree with the motion cone idea and also disgree(in politics thats called keeping my options open,in life its called "waffleing". But I have seen several great examples of counter weighted lookers either on Stakes or cones that look fantastic! I plan on making a couple of mine into this type if nothing else to add an option for a "woddeling" action on a lunch line set. Here is where I cover my a** on the other side of the coin. I totally agree that a sentry type of bird is overall motionless as they watch over the flock and that was the mentality of looker design. The great thing is even if you make a few of your lookers into motion birds you can always re add the feet as and option to take the motion away. Counter weighting the rear end is key to to control the tipping and overal sway of the decoy.

[Rob Jepson]

The great thing is even if you make a few of your lookers into motion birds you can always re add the feet as and option to take the motion away.
That's a good point Brad...thanks.

[ducknut@sbcglobal.net]

Thanks for all the information everyone! Nice to have a website to get some quick answers and help from guys who have tried this. Hope you all have a great season!

[GooseFlocker]

This is a first-class post…I was being somewhat subjective, because I tried “Universal Motion Stakes” on Lookers and I didn’t like that the decoy would tend to lean forward, (in an unnatural position). Now…with the option just offered by Brad Hanson of a cone and/or the standard base option, you now have two alternatives! This in my view is a brilliant submission. ;)

[CluckmeMN]

I tried it on one, but they are very front heavy! You need to counter balance them with something. I have seen a large bolt, that goes through the tail from inside out the bottom.

[gadabout]

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Here are a couple that I did with a bolt through the tail end with washers to counter balance them. When I got the weight and balance right I took a bolt cutter and cut the ends of the bolts so as not to damage my Looker bags. The motion is deadly when you set them to appear as they are walking into the spread.

[ducknut@sbcglobal.net]

Thanks again you guys, for all points of view and strategies. Some excellent ideas!