Avery Reps.

[calling4life]

The guy that started the FFD deal with the e-mail and what not sent me this and wanted me to post it so you could see it.

It seems that I am no longer able to post on this forum. I feel badly asking you to do this but I was wondering if you would mind posting this to the forum. I don't want you to get in the middle of this crap but I just had a couple of things to say.

To whom it may concern:

First I would like to say that I did not expect this to go this far. It just goes to show that there are alot of people that feel the same way as I do. For one thing I did not go around on different forums bashing anyone.

The reason that I did not go to the store right away is that the store I got the decoys from Is hours from my house. I live in Wisconsin. I also thought that Avery would like to take care of the problem right away.

There was a problem with 4 out of the 6 decoys. They offered to send me a new cone for one of them and the head for another. I would have had to send the other 2 of them back to the factory at my expense anyway to replace the defects. Those were my options. I was fine with that except for the shipping costs.

I know that a person will interpret an e-mail differently than another. I felt that Mr. Matthews was talking down to me. I hope that it is not the way that he intended it but that is how I felt. I thought that it is probably what he would have said to anyone in my situation so I did not think that it was the wrong thing to do when I posted the letter. Why should it be a problem anyway? Did he not mean what he said? I am sorry if I offended him in posting it.

I know that I was referred to as acting like a child. I think that was an unprofessional thing to say as an Avery empolyee. That's all I'll say about that. I did not intend to get into mud slinging. Everything I posted was matter-of-fact. I did not make anything up or falsify anything. I thought I was getting a certain thing. I thought the company would take care of me. Yes, at their expense. I never made any wild requests.

I was told that it would cost about $20 to send the decoys back. I did not think that it was out of line to ask for that much. It went from keeping me as a loyal customer for life to making me not want to purchase another thing from them. I am not compaining about the price. It's not peanuts though for me. I thought a large company such as Avery would want to make sure that I was happy with what I was getting. I don't think that they care about me though as I am only one person. I had only paid shipping to my house why not have to pay to ship it back to the company as well to get what I thought I was getting in the first place.

If I am not supposed to complain on your site, where should I complain when I think that I am not getting proper service? I am not an unreasonable person. People talked about me like I was out for blood. I don't know where some of these comments came from. I never called anyone a name or insalted anyone personally. Many people made the assumptions that I was here to stir up trouble. I was only making a point that I felt that my problems were not being delt with correctly for a company that prides themselves on customer service.


Thank You

Nick Mostek
Little Chute, WI

[mainlymallards]

The dude bought the dekes in good faith and did not receive what he paid for. I own a few avery decoys (maybe 2 dozen) and the day I buy some and have problems right out of the box is the last day I ever buy an avery product.

Final Approach is already on my no buy list from problems with decoys out of the box and poor customer service since the Bushnell take over.

Once he makes a point of his dissatisfaction the cheerleader squad jumps all over him like he is making a big deal out of nothing. I know full well what he is going through from my experience with FA where the closest dealer is 150 miles away.

In the end, I drove the 150 miles, got a full refund and will never buy there product again.

I guess, when the problems are so wide spread and such a regular occurance that the companies cannot afford to deal with it. If the cases were isolated they could be dealt with, leaving a happy customer and the company would more then make their money back in the future, on purchases from a satisfied customer.

The choices are huge and customer base decreasing. I don't feel any manufacturer can really afford to be chasing customers away.

[jamesmc]

RA RA RE (shaking my pom-poms since I'm an avery cheerleader)




Once he makes a point of his dissatisfaction the cheerleader squad jumps all over him like he is making a big deal out of nothing. I know full well what he is going through from my experience with FA where the closest dealer is 150 miles away.




He WAS making a big deal out of it....

Here is the answer but he just couldn't do it. All he had to do was take them back. He even said it his self right here.

Sportsman's said that I could either send it to avery and they would give me a gift card for my trouble or I can return it to the store near my house and they would send me a new box at the store's expense. What a crock!!!

Now I guess I'll run them back to the store and wait for the new ones.

Wow what a HUGE ORDEAL to take them back to the STORE NEAR HIS HOUSE. Nice first post by the way. Welcome to avery!! He said he would have to wait for the new ones. WHAT WAS HE GOING TO BE DOING IF THEY SHIPPED IT DIRECT FROM AVERY?

[John Deere]

Maybe if avery had some one check each decoy before it is distributed this would have never happened...

[Dirt_Bag]

Maybe if avery had some one check each decoy before it is distributed this would have never happened...

You show me a company of this size that are able to do this. Are you willing to pay alot more for a few defects that are found in the thousands that are shipped. The guy wouldn't be satified no matter if they sent him 6 doz replacments.

IM no Avery wh**e but fair is fair. Some just want to bitch to bitch about something

[oscar]

How about Benelli, Beretta?

Gerbing Blind Heat is doing this same thing and more for me now to correct a defective product issue.

Bottom line is you expect something to be right when you buy it and if it isn't you expect the mfr to do whatever nessecary to stand behind thier product.

Ever own a Sportdog E collar? They are the BEST at this is the outdoor industry. Call with a problem and get a new repalcement in 2 days. Period, no questions asked and they send you a prepaid label to return the old one.

[Weatherby]

How about Benelli, Beretta?

Gerbing Blind Heat is doing this same thing and more for me now to correct a defective product issue.

Bottom line is you expect something to be right when you buy it and if it isn't you expect the mfr to do whatever nessecary to stand behind thier product.

Ever own a Sportdog E collar? They are the BEST at this is the outdoor industry. Call with a problem and get a new repalcement in 2 days. Period, no questions asked and they send you a prepaid label to return the old one.

well if you would bought a dogtra you wouldn't have problems.. :p :D

[weeberface]

I'm with the guy on this one. Avery should have paid the shipping back. Its the LEAST they could have done for even letting a defective decoy get out of their factory.

I work at a retail store and more and more companies are requesting customers send defective things back themselves, free of charge, simply to clear any hard feelings that may be lingering. Companies such as Nike, Adidas, Oakley, Under Armour, all want more interaction with their customers. It boggles my mind why Avery, which is obviously a multi-million dollar franchise, would not want the same. In retail theres a saying that goes around. 1 unhappy customer tells 2 or 3 friends, and they tell 2 or 3 friends, and soon enough you have 50 torqued off people because one person got a bad deal.

I garuntee you Avery lost a few customers over this deal, whether it be people reading this blog, or friends of the guy involved. It would be one thing if Avery was the only company that sold such products, but with more and more demand for hunting goods, more and more companies are putting out better products to catch up with Avery and FA.

Its just to bad for Avery in this deal, 20 dollars given to the consumer may have translated in to hundreds or even thousands of dollars in increased revenue back to their company. If the customer is happy they're going to come back, if they're unhappy, they will go somewhere else. There is always somewhere else.

[jamesmc]

This should not have been an "AVERY" problem to begin with. All he had to do was take them back to the store that is right down the road from his house and PROBLEM SOLVED. Seems like you guys are missing the point. He had an easy fix and chose to stir up crap here and on other forums he is a member of.

[ksgoosekilr]

This should not have been an "AVERY" problem to begin with.
Why not? They DO make the product.....

[Snowgooseman__SD]

KSgoosekillr
RIght on brother you took the words right out of my mouth
And by the way avery should have taken care of this im dissapointed

[zwohl]

How is this the retailer's issue to solve? Scheels, nor Cabelas nor Sportmans Warehouse put their name on Avery's decoys. So when a person opens a box that contains bad product, why should retailers deal with ticked off customers? (thats why I will never purchase decoys without opening them in the store) For a company who's advertising slogan contains the phrase, " tell us what you want...we're listening", it seems like being accountable for the product is not one of them.

[jamesmc]

If you guys buy a TV, VCR, anything from wal-mart and they are broken what do you do? Call Sony? Call Emerson? No you take it back to wal-mart and have it replaced. I am not saying that The original problem wasn't caused by avery. What I am saying is instead of BITCHING AND STIRRING UP SHIT JUST TAKE THEM BACK AND YOUR PROBLEM IS SOLVED. IMO you guys are just looking for reasons to BITCH and MOAN about avery. I'll say this again and if you read some of my earlier posts on it where I quoted the guy.....He was given multiple ways to have his problem resolved. He was not happy with any of them so he chose to come on here and other forums he is a member of and smear avery's name because he is PISSED nothing more. Sportsman's even offered him a gift certificate for his trouble and he STILL WASN'T HAPPY.

[jamesmc]

I bought for a multi-million dollar corp and I can tell you there are tons of returns that come in. We (the company I worked for) sold the people the product so they brought them (the unwanted or defective product) back to us. They didn't call our venders. We replaced the product and the customer was happy. We then inturn returned the defective and/or unwanted product to the original vender on a quarterly basis. This is how retail works.

[Band Man1]

This should not have been an "AVERY" problem to begin with. All he had to do was take them back to the store that is right down the road from his house and PROBLEM SOLVED. Seems like you guys are missing the point. He had an easy fix and chose to stir up crap here and on other forums he is a member of.

Are you kidding me ??? Not an Avery problem ?? Who made the dekes and allowed them to leave the factory :confused:

As for the take it back to the store argument... Its better sometimes to deal directly with the company instead of the store. Esp in this guys situation.

I think all of these stories are very very very bad for Avery. I see countless upon countless customers dissatisfied with Avery products and this is going to hurt thier company in the long run.



I think avery def has some great innovative products, but thier quality and cs are very very lacking. Just my honest opinon.

With more companies like FA making new innovative products I think Avery will def feel in in thier pocketbooks in the future if they dont get a handle on this.

[mcudwort]

I have had a bad experience with avery customer service myself. I have been waiting for a head for one of my ffd lesser decoys for close to 50 days. I don't understand how it is even possible that they can be out of the decoy heads for this long? I broke an active head in the mean time which was my fault and they are going to throw this head in for free. I think I read earlier where Stephen was the guy that you dealt with on your problem and he is the same guy that I dealt with. He threw in the free head for me so I am happy about that and give him credit for trying to make it right but I just cannot understand how they could still be sold out of the replacement decoy heads still!!!

[mainlymallards]

[QUOTE=jamesmc]RA RA RE (shaking my pom-poms since I'm an avery cheerleader)



He WAS making a big deal out of it....

Here is the answer but he just couldn't do it. All he had to do was take them back. He even said it his self right here.



...... and so he should have. He pulled several hundred dollars of his hard earned money out his pocket to pay for a product he full expected to work when he opened the boxes.

[Tony Vandemore]

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[Weatherby]

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i agree tony....;) :p

[calling4life]

Hey, don't point any fingers at me, the guy just wanted me to put that on here as an apology for if he was taken wrong, or came off wrong.

This wasn't suppose to be a thread about right or wrong.

Then again, always good to remember that arguing shows passion, so if you don't like what is being said, at least you can look at this and think "these guys truly have some passion for the sport"

And that is worth all the BS shot around.:)

[J Kryspin]

weeberface:

FYI -

Oakley - Sells direct to consumers.
Nike - Sells direct to consumers.
Adidas - Sells direct to consumers.
Under Armour - Sells direct to consumers.
Avery - Does not sell direct to consumers.

[jamesmc]

Sorry for the all caps but I wanted my response to Be deferentiated from his....

Are you kidding me ??? Not an Avery problem ?? Who made the dekes and allowed them to leave the factory :confused:

YOU ARE RIGHT AVERY DID MAKE THE DECOYS. BUT THE PROBLEM WAS HIM GETTING NEW DECOYS WHICH HE COULD HAVE BY JUST TAKING THEM BACK TO THE STORE.

As for the take it back to the store argument... Its better sometimes to deal directly with the company instead of the store. Esp in this guys situation.

HOW WAS IT BETTER TO DEAL DIRECT WHEN HIS PROBLEM COULD HAVE BEEN SOLVED WITHIN MINUTES BY GOING RIGHT DOWN THE STREET TO "THE STORE NEAR HIS HOUSE"

I think all of these stories are very very very bad for Avery. I see countless upon countless customers dissatisfied with Avery products and this is going to hurt thier company in the long run.

YOU DON'T SEE COUNTLESS STORIES OF DIS-SATISFIED CUSTOMERS. YOU SEE A FEW GUYS THAT HAVE PROBLEMS AND COUNTLESS PEOPLE CLAIMING THAT THEIR SISTERS, BOYFRIENDS, UNCLES, DAD HAD PROBLEMS WITH THEIRS. I GOT INTO IT WITH A BUNCH OF GUYS ON THE FUGE ABOUT THIS SAME THING AND I ASKED THEM TO SHOW ME SOME PICS AND I WOULD BELIEVE THEM. YOU KNOW HOW MANY COULD? ZERO!

I think avery def has some great innovative products, but thier quality and cs are very very lacking. Just my honest opinon.

With more companies like FA making new innovative products I think Avery will def feel in in thier pocketbooks in the future if they dont get a handle on this.

[NickHallph-1]

look guys i love avery porducts i think that they are the best waterfowl products out on the market today. You guys all have good points in this argument. like he should have just taken them back to the store and that he should have looked at them in the boxes before he took the decoys home. That is what i always do if i buy something from Cabelas and it is in the box i always ask to open the box to make sure everything is in order, and they have no problem with me opening the box. You know why that is???????? Because they are confident that the product in the box is not deffective. If the product is deffective then right there on the spot they will give me a box of the undefective product. And if i ever have a problem with their stuff their customer service is great. But like someone else said he was given multiple ways out of his situation like Sportsmans giving him a gift card and what ever else that is what he should have done is taken them back to sportsmans and recived his gift card. And i understand that he was trying to appologize about what happened and thats alright it's just that he did not need to come on here looking for trouble thats all.

[Hansen]

A few weeks ago I was putting away a few Dakota decoys on my shelves. One dropped on my cement floor in the garage, the head broke off. I called up Dakota fulling expecting to pay for a new feeder head. They overnighted a new head no cost. No need for a receipt, haggle over emailing photos or other BS.

[John Deere]

A few weeks ago I was putting away a few Dakota decoys on my shelves. One dropped on my cement floor in the garage, the head broke off. I called up Dakota fulling expecting to pay for a new feeder head. They overnighted a new head no cost. No need for a receipt, haggle over emailing photos or other BS.

See no one believes me that avery is the only decoy company that charges you to send back broken and defective products.

[J Kryspin]

See no one believes me that avery is the only decoy company that charges you to send back broken and defective products.

WRONG.

I had to send G&H decoys back twice at my expense to get replaced.

Thanks for playing, come again.

[Band Man1]

.YOU DON'T SEE COUNTLESS STORIES OF DIS-SATISFIED CUSTOMERS. YOU SEE A FEW GUYS THAT HAVE PROBLEMS AND COUNTLESS PEOPLE CLAIMING THAT THEIR SISTERS, BOYFRIENDS, UNCLES, DAD HAD PROBLEMS WITH THEIRS. I GOT INTO IT WITH A BUNCH OF GUYS ON THE FUGE ABOUT THIS SAME THING AND I ASKED THEM TO SHOW ME SOME PICS AND I WOULD BELIEVE THEM. YOU KNOW HOW MANY COULD? ZERO!

You mean this thread ????

http://www.refugeforums.com/refuge/showthread.php?t=612460&highlight=Avery+Decoy+Problems

James, You have hundreds of people telling and showing you how bad thier experience was with Avery and yet you still didnt believe them. You expected everyone to take enough effort to post up thier decoys on a internet site to prove you, ONE guy wrong. Even then you still would not believe that people have had bad experiences with AVERY products !!! Guys post up pictures with messed up decoys and you say oh well show me more pictures :confused:

Newsflash james, all of those people arnt lieing. Just because you havent had problems with Avery products doesnt mean that tons and tons of others havent.

If you think that all those people just want to make avery look bad you got another thing coming..


Hey here you go another one less than a month old

http://www.refugeforums.com/refuge/showthread.php?t=662450&highlight=Avery+ruff+stand


PS, I own Avery products (almost as many duck dekes as you) The reason for that is because they have the best looking duck decoys besides full curls. Do they have paint issues ?? Yes but I deal with it. And I do think they are getting alot better.

I will buy some of thier products, and I will pass on others since I got burned in the past.

[Andrew Bremseth]

James did anyone ever show you the pictures?

[6drakes]

why do some of you idiots keep sayin its not a big deal for him to take the decoys back? or that the store is right down his street? Do you honestly think that if the store was a few blocks away he wouldn't have done that?
If some of you cheerleaders would take the time to read the original post from when this all started he said that the store was HOURS away. Just because avery said return them to a store near you don't mean its two blocks away you morons. It means that he needs to return them to the nearest store to him which could be 20 min or it could be 4 hours.. This is a radical example but if i call what-a-burger and tell them I really want one of their cheeseburgers they would say well go to the nearest what-a-burger and get one. Well guess what the closest one to me is 12 hours away. the point I'm making is that just cause they say a store near him don't mean its just "right down the street" like some of you keep implying.
I don't have a dog in this fight but it does make me sick how some of you cheerleaders can and will miscontrue anything to spin avery in the right and anyone else in the wrong.

[jthunts]

Couldn't someone just make this thread go away:D :D

[jamesmc]

You mean this thread ????

http://www.refugeforums.com/refuge/showthread.php?t=612460&highlight=Avery+Decoy+Problems

James, You have hundreds of people telling and showing you how bad thier experience was with Avery and yet you still didnt believe them. You expected everyone to take enough effort to post up thier decoys on a internet site to prove you, ONE guy wrong. Even then you still would not believe that people have had bad experiences with AVERY products !!! Guys post up pictures with messed up decoys and you say oh well show me more pictures :confused:

Newsflash james, all of those people arnt lieing. Just because you havent had problems with Avery products doesnt mean that tons and tons of others havent.

If you think that all those people just want to make avery look bad you got another thing coming..


Hey here you go another one less than a month old

http://www.refugeforums.com/refuge/showthread.php?t=662450&highlight=Avery+ruff+stand


PS, I own Avery products (almost as many duck dekes as you) The reason for that is because they have the best looking duck decoys besides full curls. Do they have paint issues ?? Yes but I deal with it. And I do think they are getting alot better.

I will buy some of thier products, and I will pass on others since I got burned in the past.


Yep that was the one. Only three people could provide proof. The rest said they just threw them away or it was their brothers, cousins decoys and he sold them real cheap. And FYI this was about decoys not Ruff stands and that guy definately had a problem with those stands. So did this guy with his decoys. That's not the issue here. The ISSUE is the fact that he couldn't take them back to the store that was in his words "right down the street".

[jamesmc]

James did anyone ever show you the pictures?


Just 3 Andrew and I searched through more than 20 others threads about the same thing and it was always the same story. I sold them real cheap or I just threw them away. No proof.

[jamesmc]

why do some of you idiots keep sayin its not a big deal for him to take the decoys back? or that the store is right down his street? Do you honestly think that if the store was a few blocks away he wouldn't have done that?
If some of you cheerleaders would take the time to read the original post from when this all started he said that the store was HOURS away. Just because avery said return them to a store near you don't mean its two blocks away you morons. It means that he needs to return them to the nearest store to him which could be 20 min or it could be 4 hours.. This is a radical example but if i call what-a-burger and tell them I really want one of their cheeseburgers they would say well go to the nearest what-a-burger and get one. Well guess what the closest one to me is 12 hours away. the point I'm making is that just cause they say a store near him don't mean its just "right down the street" like some of you keep implying.
I don't have a dog in this fight but it does make me sick how some of you cheerleaders can and will miscontrue anything to spin avery in the right and anyone else in the wrong.

Here is the original post that I quoted it from. Pay really close attention to the very first paragraph and the first sentence of the second. It's called reading......

Wanda from Sportsman's got ahold of Avery and it's a no go. They told the store that they would not bend on this. They will not pay shipping. Sportsman's said that I could either send it to avery and they would give me a gift card for my trouble or I can return it to the store near my house and they would send me a new box at the store's expense. What a crock!!!

Now I guess I'll run them back to the store and wait for the new ones. I can't believe avery backs up their factory defects this way. Why should I have to pay out of my pocket for something they shipped out that way. It has really opened my eyes as to what kind of company they are running. That's all I have to say about that. Now the store that sells their product is losing money on the shipping.


You better learn how to read before you start calling people idiots and morons because you just really, REALLY made your self look stupid. Go back to the #3 post on this thread and you will see where I posted a direct quote from him from the original thread that started this one stating he could have taken them back to the store near his house. He might have bought them hours away but there was a store right down from his house he could have taken them back to.

[6drakes]

Here is the original post that I quoted it from. Pay really close attention to the very first paragraph and the first sentence of the second. It's called reading......




You better learn how to read before you start calling people idiots and morons because you just really, REALLY made your self look stupid. Go back to the #3 post on this thread and you will see where I posted a direct quote from him from the original thread that started this one stating he could have taken them back to the store near his house. He might have bought them hours away but there was a store right down from his house he could have taken them back to.

Well apparntly you need to learn how to read you idiot. Nowhere does he say the "near" store is right down the street. Like I Said before the nearest store could be 4 hours away. Also just cause he said he would run them down to the store don't mean its down the street either. I ran down to kansas city the other day to pick up some cattle. Does that mean KC is just down the street from me? NO its 7 hours. Perhaps you should go back and reread all of his posts where he talks about the nearest store being hours away.


I can't run them back to the store.

I would have brought them back right away but they had to be sent to me. The store is far from my house.


The reason that I did not go to the store right away is that the store I got the decoys from Is hours from my house. I live in Wisconsin.

So I guess you really are an idiot since you can't coprehend the fact that the store is hours from his house. Especially since he actually said "the store is hours from my house"

But you go ahead and keep drinking your kool-aid and waving your pom-poms. Ya know maybe if you lift up your skirt and show em your panties they will give you a pro-staff position.

[J Kryspin]

Ya know maybe if you lift up your skirt and show em your panties they will give you a pro-staff position.

Well done, I must say.

...but when the ladies do that, I toss 'em dolla dolla bills ya'll.

Nothin' like supportin' single moms... or is that supporting moms with singles.

:p

...not that there's anything wrong with that.

[jamesmc]

Let's try this again.......Read the WHOLE FIRST PARAGRAPH and he says it in the NEXT TO THE LAST sentence RIGHT BEFORE what a crock.
Then in the second paragraph first sentence he says he'll just run them back...........I'll say it again LEARN HOW TO READ before you start name calling. What are you 2? This isn't gradeschool and I'm not a 4 YO.......

Wanda from Sportsman's got ahold of Avery and it's a no go. They told the store that they would not bend on this. They will not pay shipping. Sportsman's said that I could either send it to avery and they would give me a gift card for my trouble or I can return it to the store near my house and they would send me a new box at the store's expense. What a crock!!!

Now I guess I'll run them back to the store and wait for the new ones. I can't believe avery backs up their factory defects this way. Why should I have to pay out of my pocket for something they shipped out that way. It has really opened my eyes as to what kind of company they are running. That's all I have to say about that. Now the store that sells their product is losing money on the shipping.

[jamesmc]

Well apparntly you need to learn how to read you idiot. Nowhere does he say the "near" store is right down the street. Like I Said before the nearest store could be 4 hours away. Also just cause he said he would run them down to the store don't mean its down the street either. I ran down to kansas city the other day to pick up some cattle. Does that mean KC is just down the street from me? NO its 7 hours. Perhaps you should go back and reread all of his posts where he talks about the nearest store being hours away.









So I guess you really are an idiot since you can't coprehend the fact that the store is hours from his house. Especially since he actually said "the store is hours from my house"

But you go ahead and keep drinking your kool-aid and waving your pom-poms. Ya know maybe if you lift up your skirt and show em your panties they will give you a pro-staff position.



Here is alittle more information that can be had if you are smart enough to do alittle research (which was already pointed out in another post but I will again).........

Mr. Mostek lives in Little Chute, Wi. The nearest store to him is in De Pere, Wi. (go to www.sportsmanswarehouse.com and use the store locator) If you then compare the 2 locations on an atlas (an atlas is a map of the different states you can find at most convienent stores and wal-marts incase you didn't know)you will see that they are less than 20 miles apart. So therefore there IS A STORE NEAR HIS HOUSE AS HE HIMSELF STATED. Again I ask you to do alittle reading before you start spouting off at the mouth and calling people idiots and morons. You are only making yourself look that much more uneducated.

The next thing you are going to say is "he isn't from Wi, his profile says Wyoming. Well 1st of all No place exists called "Little Chute, Wy. and second he stated once that he was from wisconsin and signed his letter that was posted on this thread from Little Chute, Wi.

[J Kryspin]

Life goes on, obla dee, obla daaa, life goes on.................

ohhhh ohhh ohh life goes on.

[NickM]

Hey, do you guys have any field staff positions available?

[J Kryspin]

Bwahahaa

Hi Nick Mostek from Little Chute WI aka username mostek....

[Trevor Shannahan]

Well done, I must say.

...but when the ladies do that, I toss 'em dolla dolla bills ya'll.

Nothin' like supportin' single moms... or is that supporting moms with singles.

:p

...not that there's anything wrong with that.
:D :D :D :D Amen brotha