neat bird... cool mix!

[Jeff "Pitboss" Coats]

not the best light... sorry



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[Jeff "Pitboss" Coats]

http://www.ducksdogsanddecoys.com/images/fullsize/pin52008.jpg


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jeff

[bighonkers89]

Awesome pictures! That's a really nice bird. Someone needs to get that baby on the wall!

Nice job.

[Jason Kingery]

Pintail/mallard? Cool trophy!

JLK

[Adjhunt]

Wow I've never seen a Teallard before.
Shuweet Mallard/Teal mix!
Thanks for sharing

[Adjhunt]

haha it was really windy. Look at the mallard hen in the top right of the first picture.:D

[Stephen Pitt]

Brewer's duck; Mallard Gadwall hybrid.

[Andrew Bremseth]

Brewer's duck; Mallard Gadwall hybrid.
I would agree. Nice shots Jeff!

[Ramie Denzel]

Thats an awesome looking bird! nice pics!

[Brian Rhodes-The Swampers]

Very cool Jeff!:cool:

[tdh17]

look at the bill, pintail/mallard. heavy on the mallard

[hardcore dekem]

Very Cool bird!

[J Kryspin]

look at the bill, pintail/mallard. heavy on the mallard

Brewer's Duck.

Mallard x Gadwall

[Wingman]

It's the sprig tail that has me thrown off. :confused:

[SD snow goose killer]

Most definatly a mallard pintail cross, got the pintail beak, and the sprig of a pintail, if you think it is a gadwall mallard cross where does the blue in the beak come from??:confused:

[Spank'em]

Mallard / Pintail, I'm as sure of that as I am a Sooner victory tonight.:D

[J Kryspin]

Most definatly a mallard pintail cross, got the pintail beak, and the sprig of a pintail, if you think it is a gadwall mallard cross where does the blue in the beak come from??:confused:

Ducks don't have beaks...

They have bills - and this one is yellow.

http://img3.exs.cx/img3/1235/100_1010.jpg

Looks pretty damn close to exactly the bird in the photos...

Oh look, even a little sprig in the tail:

http://forum.averyoutdoors.com/showthread.php?t=11364&page=3

[J Kryspin]

Mallard / Pintail, I'm as sure of that as I am a Sooner victory tonight.:D

So you haven't a clue? :D

[duckin82]

Most definatly a mallard pintail cross, got the pintail beak, and the sprig of a pintail, if you think it is a gadwall mallard cross where does the blue in the beak come from??:confused:
there aint not blue on its beak, last two pics, yellow and black. just look at a fully mature gadwall, they have a tail end exactly like that, not a big sprig but a littler "baby sprig" almost. also, look at the white wing patch and whiteness on the wings towards the end of the wings. brewers duck, cool duck none the less

[SD snow goose killer]

J Kryspin- That duck looks fairly close, i see the resemblence of a gadwall in that duck, but no resemblance in jeffs duck, the feathers around the wing look like a gadwall on your, but jeffs shows no sign of a gadwall.

Duckin- i looked at hundreds of photos on drake gadwalls and there is no sign of a sprig on gadwalls, only ducks to have sprigs are widgeon, and the pintail.
Im still sticken with mallard pintail cross.
The beak shows alot of sign of a pintail, and also the tail.

[Cody Oberfoell]

haha it was really windy. Look at the mallard hen in the top right of the first picture.:D

HAHA!! I notice the same thing!!!

That is a very cool duck though nice pictures!!!

[duckman1313]

mallard shuv pinny cool pic

[The Goose Man]

Almost looks like a Mallard/Wigeon cross. Either way, cool picture!

[J Kryspin]

J Kryspin- That duck looks fairly close, i see the resemblence of a gadwall in that duck, but no resemblance in jeffs duck, the feathers around the wing look like a gadwall on your, but jeffs shows no sign of a gadwall.


Ducks don't have beaks, they have bills. Pintail bills are blue, the duck in question's bill is yellow.

Trust me, it's a Brewer's.

[SD snow goose killer]

Ducks don't have beaks, they have bills. Pintail bills are blue, the duck in question's bill is yellow.

Trust me, it's a Brewer's.

Who cares what people say beak or bill same dam difference, say what u want to say, and ill say what i want to say?:mad:

[Corey Sorensen]

Who cares what people say beak or bill same dam difference, say what u want to say, and ill say what i want to say?:mad:

I'll join Krispy's side on this one.....
Look up pics of mallard X pintails..
Now look up pics of Brewers ducks (gadwall X Mallard)....
Notice the redish coloring in the head, orange bill w/ black stripe down the center, next look at the body coloration and you should be able to note that it's undoubtedly a brewers duck.........

The pintail X Mallard crosses that I have seen all have an almost solid green head with a white strip around the bottom of the head comming up into the head.

100% on this being a Brewers duck...
Guess this goes to show.....

Krispy has spoken! :D lol

[spoonieslayer]

Wow I've never seen a Teallard before.
Shuweet Mallard/Teal mix!
Thanks for sharing

and the gadwall guy that a mallard x pintail croos look at it the bill its has a tiny sprig how did yall evan come up with teal and gadwall:confused:

[pjgoose]

cool

[J Kryspin]

and the gadwall guy that a mallard x pintail croos look at it the bill its has a tiny sprig how did yall evan come up with teal and gadwall:confused:

Because you guys focus on one little attribute and not the entire bird.

Does a pintail have white on the speculum? Does a gadwall?

:p

[ARKfowlmouth]

That is on weird AZZ duck, but it is awsome. Truly something you don't see everyday! Great photos.

[ScarySouthernMan]

Now now now gentlemen,


We can put this to rest right now (as if Krispy hasn't already).



Speculum...

Head color dilution...

Flank colors...

Shape of head...




There is absolutely no evidence that this duck has a lick of pintail in it.

This duck does have a pointy tail.
This duck does have a bronze sheen to it's crown.

I can see how someone COULD come to an assumption that this bird contains Pintail, but it doesn't.




Also just a reminder, there is no such thing as a Mallard with "a little pintail in it". When ducks of different species cross breed, there is almost no possibility of fertile offspring (with the exceptions of Mallard/Black Duck and Mallard/Mottled Duck crosses and the very unlikely, yet still possible Black/Mottled Duck which I've never even heard of). What this means is that any WILD crossbred (again, with the exceptions) duck is a 50/50 cross of it's parents. There is no "heavy on the Mallard" crosses with Pinnies, Gaddies or Teal. That much is not naturally plausible.


Krispy is 100% on point here... which to join the bandwagon, means he has indeed spoken.

- Scary

P.S. - I'm glad to try and answer any questions you may have about it.

[J Kryspin]

Krispy is 100% on point here... which to join the bandwagon, means he has indeed spoken.

SSM - Haven't seen ya on in a while. Good to see you.

Thanks for the backup fire.

;)

Jerry

[take'em94]

it looks like a mallard/teal or mallard/widgeon. ive never seen one but its awsome.

[NYBackwater]

This is definently a mallard X pintail hybrid. It has a pintail shaped and colored bill, it has a sprig and it has the chocolate head coloring and the speculum looks to be mixed between mallard and pintail. A gadwall hybrid would have more feather vermiculation markings.

[J Kryspin]

This is definently a mallard X pintail hybrid. It has a pintail shaped and colored bill, it has a sprig and it has the chocolate head coloring and the speculum looks to be mixed between mallard and pintail. A gadwall hybrid would have more feather vermiculation markings.

Sorry, but you are definitely wrong.

[Corey Sorensen]

This is definently a mallard X pintail hybrid. It has a pintail shaped and colored bill, it has a sprig and it has the chocolate head coloring and the speculum looks to be mixed between mallard and pintail. A gadwall hybrid would have more feather vermiculation markings.

And you are deff. wrong....look them up on google images :rolleyes:....besides, I believe we have already come to the assumption that Krispy has spoken.....

[tdh17]

duely noted, mallard/gadwall.
Its strange how the sum of the parts dont seem to add up to the whole. The pic of the mounted duck did it for me...

[chase_n_green]

Jeff, that is an awsome bird, you really get to see some cool stuff! Thanks, for sharing.

[Diver Slayer]

I'm going mallard x pintail hybrid...

[NYBackwater]

If it's part gadwall why does it have a pintail colored bill? If it was a mallard gadwall hybrid it would have a the charicteristics of both, but it has blue down the side of the bill.

[Teal 101]

If it's part gadwall why does it have a pintail colored bill? If it was a mallard gadwall hybrid it would have a the charicteristics of both, but it has blue down the side of the bill.

It doesn't. The bills is yellow and black. Last time i check a pintail has a blue bill. Mallard has yellow. Gadwall has black. Lets add em up.

It has a rusty coloration in the head, not the chocolate brown of a pintail. There is no vertical stripe going up the neck of the bird like in a pintail or pinnie/mallard cross.

It doesnt have a full sprig which is a sure sign of a pintail/mallard cross.

Pintail has no white in the speculum. Its green.

The Flanks match that of a gadwall and so does head shape.

brewers
http://i474.photobucket.com/albums/rr102/swzimmerman/IMG_4291.jpg?t=1231857855

Pintailxgadwall
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7918/hybridsideso2.jpg

Mallard Pintail
http://www.birdmanstudios.com/photo/pintail_mallard.jpg
http://www.birdmanstudios.com/photo/pintail_mallard2.jpg

:cool:

[J Kryspin]

It's a Brewer's Duck aka Mallard x Gadwall. Period.

If anyone is seeing blue shades in the photos Pitboss posted, my suggestion is to reset the configurations of your monitor.

[BudF]

Whatever it is, can we all agree that it's mother "got around" ?

[Travis Lyle]

Nice work again Jeff!

[ScarySouthernMan]

BudF,

BWAAAHAHAHAAA!!!

Yea, I agree.


Teal 101,

Excellent footwork on those pics... The "Pinwall" is a first for me... It bares a striking resemblence to a "White Cheaked Pintail" sometimes called a "Bahama Pintail" or Bahama Duck. That's wild. You can definately see similarities there. I wonder if that's evolution trying to give us a clue...

Nice job.





Krispy,

Indeed likewise, always nice to hear from you as well... Hope this year has been kind to you and yours...



Ok, I'm over this one,

- Scary

[pintail09]

haha it was really windy. Look at the mallard hen in the top right of the first picture.:D

Sorry but i don't see a mallard hen. I see a gadwall hen.:D

[Adjhunt]

Sorry but i don't see a mallard hen. I see a gadwall hen.
woa ok, geeze sorry
:rolleyes:

[Teal 101]

BudF,

BWAAAHAHAHAAA!!!

Yea, I agree.


Teal 101,

Excellent footwork on those pics... The "Pinwall" is a first for me... It bares a striking resemblence to a "White Cheaked Pintail" sometimes called a "Bahama Pintail" or Bahama Duck. That's wild. You can definately see similarities there. I wonder if that's evolution trying to give us a clue...

Nice job.





Krispy,

Indeed likewise, always nice to hear from you as well... Hope this year has been kind to you and yours...



Ok, I'm over this one,

- Scary

Yah I also noticed a similarity to the Bahama Pintail. Awesome looking bird for sure.

Glad i have a few places i can go and grab awesome pics like these.

[Nick Westerholm]

very cool pic! what a beauty!

[fowlstormz5126]

ya i thought i saw some gadwall in it. Even looks a little like a green wing teal a little bit. very very cool duck for sure.

[fowlstormz5126]

coolest duck i ever shot was a domestic duck. haha. the bird was the size of a goose and couldnt barely keep up with the flock. had white tips on his wings...tasted even better...:D

[duckin82]

okay, TEAL 101, i am almost positive that is a cross between a bahama and northern pinnie, that is possibly one of the coolest lookin ducks ive ever seen, not tryin to say it couldnt be a gaddie but i see more bahama pinnie in him than anything else, especially on the cheek, but hes got an orange foot and a little bit of red on his wing, where did you kiill that bird?

[Jeff "Pitboss" Coats]

thanks all!!!

jeff

[Tylor Johnson]

sweet pic awesome bird

[duckslayer7]

That is one nice bird. Mallard/Gadwall I think.

[NYBackwater]

Hey fellas check out this link. It has some good gadwallXmallard hybrid and pintailXmallard hybrid photos. You have to scroll down a ways to see all the hybrids.

http://10000birds.com/hybrid-mallards.htm

[J Kryspin]

Yeah, the 10k Birds site is a pretty cool one. Good idea posting up the link!

[Teal 101]

okay, TEAL 101, i am almost positive that is a cross between a bahama and northern pinnie, that is possibly one of the coolest lookin ducks I've ever seen, not tryin to say it couldn't be a Gaddie but i see more bahama pinnie in him than anything else, especially on the cheek, but hes got an orange foot and a little bit of red on his wing, where did you kill that bird?

Sadly I haven't killed any hybrids. I have a few of these pictures saved on my HDD and know where to get some from various other forums for comparison.

Yes it looks kind of like a Bahama x Pinnie cross but it's not quite there. Bahama pinnies have a lot of brown in them.

http://www.mirandaapps.co.uk/jpgs/bahama%20pintail.jpg

Notice the gray legs? Same as with a North American Pintail. The bird in question is showing some yellow in the legs typical of a Gadwall. Bahama Pintails head is a light brown whereas the NA Pintail is a dark chocolate. The bird in question displays a purple sheen, an uncommon trait in gadwalls but present none the less.

Going to have to go with Pintail x Gadwall on this one, although the white cheek patch is a ringer for sure.:confused::D

[The Waterfowler]

To those that have done their homework, I congradulate. Audubon first identified the Mallard/Gadwall a.k.a. Brewer's duck in the 1800's, so that point of identification has been around for quite some time. Hybrid birds aren't like mixing paint. Certain genetic consistancies exist like the white tertails in Brewer's Ducks, white neck ring, albeit elongated, in Mallard/Pintails. Brewer's has yellow stripe on upper mandible, Mallard/Pintail is blue. Subtle keys remain true in these hybrids as to what they are. The other hybrid in question is a Mallard/Gadwall as correctly identified at first. No White-cheeked Pintail whatsoever in that one.

Coloration will vary in the heads of Brewer's but bill and wing pattern will remain constant.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g202/thewaterfowler/brewersduck.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g202/thewaterfowler/brewersduckmallardgadwall.jpg

This one was banded by a friend in Ontario and still flying around.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g202/thewaterfowler/2004086.jpg

As was this Mallard/Pintail for comparison.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g202/thewaterfowler/2004087.jpg

Another Mallard/Pintailhttp://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g202/thewaterfowler/julymounts001.jpg

And another.

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g202/thewaterfowler/mallard-pintailhybrid.jpg

Gadwall/Pintail

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g202/thewaterfowler/pintailgadwallhybrid.jpg

[G_Maxson]

It has a pintail shaped and colored bill

Gaddie bills are also narrow like a pintail. The shape of that bill can just as easily point to a Gadwall.

[goose commander]

sweet looking bird, i think thats a mix of greenwing teal, mallard, and pintail.

[J Kryspin]

sweet looking bird, i think thats a mix of greenwing teal, mallard, and pintail.

LOL

Good one!

[duckin82]

Sadly I haven't killed any hybrids. I have a few of these pictures saved on my HDD and know where to get some from various other forums for comparison.

Yes it looks kind of like a Bahama x Pinnie cross but it's not quite there. Bahama pinnies have a lot of brown in them.

http://www.mirandaapps.co.uk/jpgs/bahama%20pintail.jpg

Notice the gray legs? Same as with a North American Pintail. The bird in question is showing some yellow in the legs typical of a Gadwall. Bahama Pintails head is a light brown whereas the NA Pintail is a dark chocolate. The bird in question displays a purple sheen, an uncommon trait in gadwalls but present none the less.

Going to have to go with Pintail x Gadwall on this one, although the white cheek patch is a ringer for sure.:confused::D
yeh, it was just the cheek patch that threw me, idk, neat lookin bird for sure

[Teal 101]

yeh, it was just the cheek patch that threw me, idk, neat lookin bird for sure

Yah it is a zinger since neither gadwall nor pintail have the white cheek patch.

[duckman1313]

cool bird

[Greenheadsmacker13]

Man, never seen a Green-Winged teal/mallard mix nice bird i got a mix breed hangin on my wall hope you get that one on yours

One Call to Kill'em All!

[DrewR]

Thats a sweet looking bird!!

[Mike Napier]

Nice Pic Jeff!

It looks to be a combination of a Wood Duck and Widgeon with a little bit of Mallard in it.:D

[takem7]

R U guys Fing kinding me that is 100% mallard widgeon next to a hen widgeon hen mallard orange bill same as gadwal that ducks bill is blue huh its a hen widgeon look in like th 5th pic you see the stripe going down the side of that ducks face its brite green huh same for a widgeon and it has a lil sprig huh same for a widgeon

[Teal 101]

R U guys Fing kinding me that is 100% mallard widgeon next to a hen widgeon hen mallard orange bill same as gadwal that ducks bill is blue huh its a hen widgeon look in like th 5th pic you see the stripe going down the side of that ducks face its brite green huh same for a widgeon and it has a lil sprig huh same for a widgeon

:confused::confused::confused:

Forget to engage the brain this morning?

[duckin82]

R U guys Fing kinding me that is 100% mallard widgeon next to a hen widgeon hen mallard orange bill same as gadwal that ducks bill is blue huh its a hen widgeon look in like th 5th pic you see the stripe going down the side of that ducks face its brite green huh same for a widgeon and it has a lil sprig huh same for a widgeon

sir, look up brewers duck, that should do it for ya....

[J Kryspin]

R U guys Fing kinding me that is 100% mallard widgeon next to a hen widgeon hen mallard orange bill same as gadwal that ducks bill is blue huh its a hen widgeon look in like th 5th pic you see the stripe going down the side of that ducks face its brite green huh same for a widgeon and it has a lil sprig huh same for a widgeon

You, sir, are 100% Fing wrong. You are the weakest link. Goodbye.

[Teal 101]

You, sir, are 100% Fing wrong. You are the weakest link. Goodbye.

Krispy has spoken!!!!

[Nick Michael]

haha You guys are all special