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Old 11-26-2005, 07:06 PM
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I have a problem with the paint on the full body goose decoys. I have only hunted over them maybe 2 or 3 times and the paint is compleatley gone off the tail and is chiping in other spots. I love the way they look I just dont understand why they chip so easy, are the new ones better, what about the FFD how do they hold up, and is the paint on the duck decoys better or is it the same.
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Old 11-27-2005, 01:09 AM
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How much do you guide for waterfowl?

Anyway, you need to have your receipt and some digital photos ready when you call customer service. The number is 800-333-5119. Ask for Tim.

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Old 11-27-2005, 02:18 PM
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I used those before I started to guide then i stoped using them because of the paint comming off. This has nothing to do with what i asked, I asked is the paint on the new decoys any better.
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Old 11-27-2005, 06:12 PM
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The paint on the old decoys is fine. For the last time, and I am not getting defensive here, just telling the story one more time, the paint was never an issue the paint process was at times an issue. If they had missed a process or if the virgin plastic accidentally was touched before it was painted then the paint did not adhere. Not a paint problem. I can tell you that I have another brand right here in my hand that I bought before I worked for Avery, and their tails are almost completely without paint as well, and I never once thought about calling up the company to tell them that the paint was inferior or that that I couldn't believe that they would sell a product where the paint wouldn't stay on the plastic after I had been hunting with them and loading and unloading them out of my trailer. Heck I could of driven an hour and showed them, but I didn't.
What I am trying to say is that if you have a decoy where a step may have been missed, then do what Rick said and call customer service tomorrow morning because the paint is fine on the decoys new and old, but when you are building a product have it be a car or microwave, or decoy's, things may get missed. Not intentionally, but it happens with EVERYONE. Thanks for buying our product and remember if you think you have an issue, call 1-800-333-5119.
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Old 11-27-2005, 10:34 PM
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Great response, Travis. That is a good answer to any other question we should ever have regarding paint.
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Old 11-28-2005, 10:13 AM
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thanks for your answer, i did not mean to stir up any confrontation. I like the the decoys look and i was cust curious on why they lost paint so easily.
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Old 01-02-2008, 10:54 PM
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Sure a step may get missed but this is not the case. I have my fair share of full bodys and the only decoys I have a problem with is Avery's I have called and have gotten nowhere. New style or old style the paint is averys decoys biggest flaw. First was a problem with the bases, they fixed that, then was a problem with the heads staying on, they fixed that, Now if they could adhere a paint that would stay on if they take a little bump, THEN avery would have the BEST decoy on the market. Not to bag on Avery here but I am not a guide or a pro staffer and I out of pocket have to buy all of my decoys. I can't afford to buy replacement full bodys every year because the paint is coming off. I will say that I don't bag them and put a pretty little sock over their head. I put them on a shelves in a trailer and strap them down, So yes I will take some credit to rubbing some paint off myself once in a while but come on. You don't see big feet selling nice little bags and sock to put your decoys in every time you load them up. To me this is averys way of saying hey we havent mastered the paint process yet so handle them like they are your mothers china. I load and unload about thirty dozen avery decoys at least once a week and for me to put each one in a bag would take way to much time. I see customers settling for a decoy that looks like a football "big feet" that withstands the abuse of many set ups. Than a decoy the is truely lifelike that will only last one or two season. I hope I haven't offended anyone at avery, but maybe they will take my two cents worth and look for new and better ideas on paint adhesion.
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How much do you guide for waterfowl?

Anyway, you need to have your receipt and some digital photos ready when you call customer service. The number is 800-333-5119. Ask for Tim.

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The paint on the old decoys is fine. For the last time, and I am not getting defensive here, just telling the story one more time, the paint was never an issue the paint process was at times an issue. If they had missed a process or if the virgin plastic accidentally was touched before it was painted then the paint did not adhere. Not a paint problem. I can tell you that I have another brand right here in my hand that I bought before I worked for Avery, and their tails are almost completely without paint as well, and I never once thought about calling up the company to tell them that the paint was inferior or that that I couldn't believe that they would sell a product where the paint wouldn't stay on the plastic after I had been hunting with them and loading and unloading them out of my trailer. Heck I could of driven an hour and showed them, but I didn't.
What I am trying to say is that if you have a decoy where a step may have been missed, then do what Rick said and call customer service tomorrow morning because the paint is fine on the decoys new and old, but when you are building a product have it be a car or microwave, or decoy's, things may get missed. Not intentionally, but it happens with EVERYONE. Thanks for buying our product and remember if you think you have an issue, call 1-800-333-5119.
I can understand your frustration as I have been on this forum for quite sometime, and I too, am so sick of seeing the same problems when the question has that has been answered a million times. But your tone in this message is not something I would expect from managers. This is the internet
and quite possibly im interperting your message incorrectly, but your frustration is showing. Again something that happens all the time as a manager, but In my mind something you shouldn't show publicly if you can help. Especially to a customer. Not telling you guys how to do your jobs, just giving my opinion. Happy New Years.

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Old 01-02-2008, 11:50 PM
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Im glad all my decoys were painted on wed. Paint is staying adhered after two years of abuse. No slotted bag, just a plain old bag. I do understand what Travis is saying about the process and not the paint. Paint wont stick to a surface that isnt clean for very long. But at same time i dont feel that the customer should eat the cost of a bad paint process. And if it takes more than a year to chip off it should still be covered. It should be easy to tell the difference between chipping, rubbing or abuse. Photos dont lie

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You dug up a thread from 2 years ago? And the point was?
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